[0:31:30 - 0:31:42] So I was open to it. Then I watched, I'm giving you the truncated version. I watched the documentary UFOs past President Future by M and Ager and Alan Sandler.

[0:32:28 - 0:32:33] So anyway, so then I get in touch with the filmmakers M and Ager interview him.

[0:33:01 - 0:33:11] I said, you saw the film and I was driving my car. And what I do a lot of times is I, I like to close my eyes and listen to words and have those words recreate the imagery in my brain.