[0:16:38 - 0:16:43] And then you had the second 
congressional hearing, which was David Grush, which was absolutely
                       [0:16:46 - 0:16:50] And then just recently, just a couple of months ago, we had the third 
congressional hearing,
                       [0:22:22 - 0:22:27] months after the release of moment of contact, a 
congressional hearing under oath that was
                                             [0:28:29 - 0:28:33] He put on, he spearheaded the first open 
congressional hearing, public open 
congressional                                                                                                               [2:03:33 - 2:03:38] But that was back in the late 90s. I mean, they've been 
congressional hearings in Brazil. There's been a there's been an effort