[0:10:10 - 0:10:35] I'm fifth generation. Pleasant Grove, Utah. My ancestors came from Scandinavia, from Denmark and emigrated in the 1860s. They were early converts to the the Mormon church of the Church of Jesus Christ, the Latter-day Saints and settled in this small community at the base of Mount Timpanogas, which is this incredible mountain backdrop in Utah.

[0:15:12 - 0:15:22] Oh, no kidding. Dr. Christopher Lee. So we've been best friends since 5th grade. We got our eagle scouts together. We went on our Mormon missions about the same time.

[0:27:46 - 0:28:06] And it was funny, I bought my first Armani suit as a Mormon missionary on a bike. I bought it from the Italian menswear store at Kahala Mall which was kind of the posh mall right outside of Honolulu at the time.

[3:44:49 - 3:44:57] there are worlds without number that were not alone in the universe. Mormon theology speaks to

[1:13:14 - 1:13:16] Is there a Mormon connection with Dougway?

[1:13:17 - 1:13:23] I would think of like the CIA as being fed into by a lot of Mormon.

[1:13:23 - 1:13:25] Mormons were surroundings sort of, you know, Howard Hughes.

[0:55:09 - 0:55:18] Mormon connection as well in intelligence specifically. You know, and we can get into each of

[0:55:18 - 0:55:23] those separately but I'd like to start with the with the Mormons of something we didn't talk about

[0:55:54 - 0:55:58] I think it was discrimination because they were only hiring Mormons at one point.

[0:56:04 - 0:56:14] Really? Yeah. There was a Mormon guy who had, he'd been approached by the FBI. No, he was

[0:56:49 - 0:56:56] in the Mormon church and told him all about this and it was the Mormon bishop that turned on him.

[0:57:05 - 0:57:12] by some of the hierarchy in the Mormon church because I had done the cases, I did the case for

[1:01:29 - 1:01:35] contacted by this the Mormon, some of the Mormon leadership because I was at Jesuit headquarters,

[1:01:56 - 1:02:02] on behalf of the Mormon guy that, you know, that they did the same thing to him that he was a full

[1:03:12 - 1:03:19] between recruiting Mormons. Yes, right. You know, part of that goes into their specific

[1:03:26 - 1:03:31] how it started. I mean, that that's how the Mormonshire started was these these beings of light.