[0:48:24 - 0:48:31] And then Mark McCandlish and 
Brad Sorenson, the two primary witnesses, 
Brad Sorenson being
                       [1:20:38 - 1:20:43] And you've gone really deep on this interesting story of Mark McCandleys and 
Brad Sornson.
                       [1:20:53 - 1:21:00] So 
Brad Sornson, he's an industrial designer with his friend Aerospace Illustrator who had
                       [1:21:29 - 1:21:35] So Mark and 
Brad are to go to an air show at Northern Air Force Base in 1988.
                       [1:21:41 - 1:21:46] So 
Brad goes with some former high up official, I initially at the time thought it might have
                       [1:21:56 - 1:22:01] And then the person 
Brad is with brings him to a classified exhibit at another hangar
                                             [1:22:23 - 1:22:28] So 
Brad Swarinson has brought into a hangar where all sorts of advanced aerospace vehicles
                       [1:23:51 - 1:23:56] But I found an original interview from I think 1990 with 
Brad Sorensen and Bill Scott of
                       [1:23:59 - 1:24:04] So for the no longer is this a second hand retelling, no, this is straight from 
Brad Sorensen.
                                                                   [1:24:54 - 1:24:59] And so, okay, 
Brad Sorensen actually has a first hand interview with Bill Scott of Aviation.
                                             [1:50:55 - 1:51:00] And he said, but right before we cut off, well, how put off the interview, 
Brad sorenson.
                       [2:09:37 - 2:09:41] I think back to the 1988 Norton show as well, when 
Brad saw the pulsar craft with the