[0:48:24 - 0:48:31] And then Mark McCandlish and Brad 
Sorenson, the two primary witnesses, Brad 
Sorenson being
                       [0:48:45 - 0:48:51] was coined by 
Sorenson himself and relayed in Hamilton's 1992 book Cosmic Top Secret.
                       [1:50:55 - 1:51:00] And he said, but right before we cut off, well, how put off the interview, Brad 
sorenson.