[0:00:09 - 0:00:12] today and
talk about later, but during this time the Foreign Technology Division was trying
[0:02:24 - 0:02:29] You and I
talked about got this back together because a ton of new topics to touch on, old
[0:05:32 - 0:05:36] Of course, in Michael's case, he
talked about a human-made craft that he encountered.
[0:09:38 - 0:09:42] And who, so who does it roll up to, because this is, I was trying to
talk to Jake about
[0:10:10 - 0:10:15] And so my guess is, this is me
talking, would be like Lockheed in Northrop, but like,
[0:11:08 - 0:11:13] there's quite a bit of people I
talk to that will never make it on a video or never
[0:14:55 - 0:15:00] felt like on the one hand cliche, but maybe actually really fundamen
tal important advice
[0:16:48 - 0:16:51] And you know, I'll get back to Corso, but maybe we'll
talk about the IPU documents later,
[0:16:51 - 0:16:55] because that actually
talks about like a crash retrieval that killed technicians at Sandy
[0:22:01 - 0:22:05] That's so interesting because I was just
talking to James Fox who has an interview with Philip
[0:22:59 - 0:23:04] And I do believe the basic Roswell story that, like, some sort of, this memory me
tal,
[0:23:11 - 0:23:15] me
tal material and that it probably did make its way to write airfield at the time,
[0:25:17 - 0:25:21] But, you know, Corso would
talk about stuff like a UFO working group, which there's reasons
[0:25:24 - 0:25:29] But I wanted to say about the psionics as well is, and just kind of the men
tal phenomenon.
[0:26:01 - 0:26:08] Around 1950, Wilbert Smith met with Robert Sardbacher to
talk about flying saucers because the
[0:31:14 - 0:31:20] It doesn't seem too far fetch when Jake
talks about, uh, an asset, a psionic person,
[0:31:59 - 0:32:06] it into math and you can't instrumen
talize it into technology, I think it goes into this
[0:38:00 - 0:38:10] The first object was a me
tallic basketball-sized sphere and it was above a podium and it was,
[0:38:36 - 0:38:40] Sure, it may seem a bit strange, but we're
talking about UFO legacy programs and deep underground
[0:39:15 - 0:39:19] It's either a sphere or a piece of me
tal and they want to see, I just interviewed somebody
[0:39:22 - 0:39:27] This guy Shane Freaks, old vet symposium on Twitter and he
talks about being shown a
[0:39:34 - 0:39:39] And it's kind of the same thing as the Jake Barber story where he, he locks on men
tally
[0:40:12 - 0:40:16] levitating in front of a podium and I men
tally locked on to it and you're going to be like,
[0:40:26 - 0:40:31] like I'm out on an island where you have very few people to
talk to who like get, who
[0:41:02 - 0:41:09] story that may involve some sort of sphere, some sort of basketball sized me
tal that might
[0:41:29 - 0:41:34] You hear it in pretty much every alien abduction account is this sort of men
tal telepathic connection.
[0:41:45 - 0:41:49] So that like breaks our reality there, but they're not down for the men
tal thing.
[0:42:28 - 0:42:32] Because, you know, we were
talking about double buying who was interested in psychic spies.
[0:44:12 - 0:44:16] And another interesting thing about Stubblebind, what we're
talking about him, in the memoir
[0:47:36 - 0:47:41] So you know, he
talks about his archive release, the DPI archive, disclosure project in
[0:48:55 - 0:49:00] And around the same time, I
talked about this in around Northrop as well, Greer met a person
[0:51:07 - 0:51:11] look through these and I would say like, why does Greer get to
talk to these people
[0:51:31 - 0:51:35] This guy is an amazing person, but right when we started
talking, he was suspicious of
[0:51:50 - 0:51:54] This guy and I started
talking and we hung up on the phone one day and he called me back
[0:57:03 - 0:57:06] And, you know, the second he and I met, he and I were
talking about Bobless Rx.
[0:59:22 - 0:59:28] But I've actually, I've
talked to one person who has been to S4 and another person who
[1:00:56 - 1:01:00] But why do you think there's so many things that like, when you
talk, I'm like, we need
[1:01:05 - 1:01:11] I
talk about all the time that I think is really overlooked in legacy operations is everybody
[1:01:11 - 1:01:17] likes to
talk about the government, intelligence, military and contractors, you know, North
[1:01:48 - 1:01:52] And we can
talk about what I think based on some good intelligence that I, what I think
[1:03:37 - 1:03:41] You know, a famous example is the Infographics Show whistleblower where he
talks about a guy
[1:03:41 - 1:03:44] at Texas Instruments getting a piece of me
tal and not knowing what he's working on.
[1:07:50 - 1:07:54] Like you start to understand things about reality due to some of these experimen
tal effects
[1:10:05 - 1:10:11] off of the vi
tal study of UFOs, the public facing stuff was relegated to Project Blue
[1:10:25 - 1:10:30] And so it would to
tally make sense that Betel would have a whole lot to do with this.
[1:11:34 - 1:11:38] We're
talking about an extremely advanced scientist taking an interest in a horror novelist's
[1:12:10 - 1:12:15] And there's research to suggest that Patel also studied the like really lightweight me
tals
[1:12:18 - 1:12:23] In 1949, alongside Project Stork, they started publishing information on like shaped me
tal [1:12:42 - 1:12:49] I mean, I've
talked to a witness who didn't go on the 2023 Greer NPC, but I've
talked
[1:13:37 - 1:13:43] So I was rewatching your James Fox interview and he
talks about the 1971, the Holleman
[1:13:43 - 1:13:48] Air Force Base footage that he
talked to filmmaker Alan Sandler, who said he saw the footage
[1:16:03 - 1:16:08] But, yeah, of course, I've
talked to people I take very seriously, like, good friends
[1:18:12 - 1:18:16] You know, you got guys like Philip J. Corso who
talk about the initial Roswell crash being
[1:18:47 - 1:18:51] I've
talked to numerous people and I
talk about this all the time in my projects that
[1:18:56 - 1:19:00] So there seems to be numerous methods for them to crash acciden
tally or be brought down
[1:22:19 - 1:22:22] After further research and
talking to some people, I do think this event did occur at
[1:24:44 - 1:24:47] And I've actually
talked to the editor of that interview since and he said that they had received
[1:27:47 - 1:27:51] He
talked to an individual named Kent Celen who said he saw this over Edwards Air Force
[1:29:26 - 1:29:31] Weirdly enough, I've
talked to a guy who former Army in the mid 2010s who said he saw
[1:30:34 - 1:30:39] And there's so many stories about this, even Paul Benowitz, who was to
tally men
tally
[1:31:19 - 1:31:22] And Wang was also
talked about by primary Kingman witness, Arthur Stansel, Jr.
[1:34:21 - 1:34:25] It's actually really interesting to see witnesses who are going to
talk to Greer and so forth,
[1:38:47 - 1:38:51] There's also a few reference forensic artists I've
talked about this a few times Bill McDonald
[1:39:23 - 1:39:27] And I've
talked to McDonald about this and he maintains the secrecy of these engineers
[1:40:43 - 1:40:47] If they say that, then you're like, okay, they're
talking about next level knowledge.
[1:41:06 - 1:41:10] We
talked about earlier, being on the board of directors or a chairman of TRW as well.
[1:41:12 - 1:41:17] So, yeah, I mean Spielberg was dialed in with you have to go deep to
talk about skunk
[1:43:28 - 1:43:33] which is one, I think his experiment was first experimen
tally proven around that time.
[1:45:06 - 1:45:10] But like if you go
talk to Richard Dolan, he's a super deep UFO researcher.
[1:46:37 - 1:46:42] So unless he's to
tally grifting and putting the thing in his ear, even though he's not
[1:47:07 - 1:47:12] And it's only ever been
talked about by Fouche and Hans Adams, the Crown Prince of
[1:49:31 - 1:49:35] And recently, like as you know, Missile Man, myself and others
talking to Eric Davis.
[1:51:45 - 1:51:50] There's an email chain with how put off, Kit Green and Eric Davis
talking about the
[1:53:47 - 1:53:52] So to be quite plain after
talking with Ryan Wood, I think the majestic 12 did exist in a
[1:54:02 - 1:54:05] Well, there are people who I think are pretty credible who
talk about this,
[1:55:05 - 1:55:11] And he's meeting with Admiral
Tal, Thomas Wilson, who's had a joint chaff, joint chiefs, J2,
[1:57:32 - 1:57:36] For example, James Forres
tall meeting with Truman, dates are mentioned when those two
[1:59:43 - 1:59:48] And she
talked about Menzel having like deleted like all this astronomical information from
[2:01:35 - 2:01:40] he
talks about how it was the oss the office of strategic services, which is before the
[2:01:52 - 2:01:59] So David Grush says that there's this magenta crash in Longbarte and I
taly in 1933 exactly.
[2:02:11 - 2:02:19] She made it clear to me that James Jesus Angleton was the USS person involved in I
taly at
[2:06:15 - 2:06:20] he
talks about a multi-decade cold war with our adversaries we can assume is Russia and
[2:06:58 - 2:07:03] In the salt one negotiations, I think it's 1971 treaty, we're
talking about coordinating
[2:07:22 - 2:07:26] Immaculate Constellation Report that
talks about alien reproduction vehicles seen over
[2:09:21 - 2:09:25] a scary world and I almost don't even love
talking about UFOs in this context because
[2:12:11 - 2:12:17] Yeah, that's the contentious thing we
talked about as well with Jake and Michael in that
[2:16:41 - 2:16:45] Which closely with Jake, he
talked very poignantly on retrieval and implications of crash
[2:18:25 - 2:18:34] Where Ken Clipstein basically clippinstein, he admitted to Cigar and Crys
tal, Crys
tal [2:19:19 - 2:19:23] There was a lot of
talk about like the combat controller pipeline even though that Jake
[2:20:37 - 2:20:40] The cabal stuff is nonsense because it's all
talked about in the frame of a tip and
[2:20:40 - 2:20:45] a sap, which as we've
talked about throughout this whole conversation, there's going back
[2:20:51 - 2:20:56] There is not, there might be a lot of reoccurring players that we've also
talked about as well
[2:22:16 - 2:22:21] of these other guys are just like bad vibes and like, it's to
tal, it's all ad hominem
[2:24:57 - 2:25:02] We didn't even get to that story of the whistleblower who
talked about, there was an egg-shaped
[2:25:07 - 2:25:13] Well, we'll save that because I plan to
talk to that guy soon, but it's a person who
[2:26:16 - 2:26:21] not only going to
talk about, you know,
talk to him, corroborate his story, but also or