[1:14:38 - 1:14:41] And 
Winebrenner was actually part of the Foreign Technology Division out of Wright Pat
                       [1:14:47 - 1:14:50] Winebrenner would be asked all the time about UFOs because Robert Emma Nager would go
                       [1:14:52 - 1:14:57] And, you know, there's a story of a conversation where he and 
Winebrenner are speaking and 
Winebrenner                       [1:15:06 - 1:15:12] Brigalia and so forth about 
Winebrenner on his deathbed saying that they house dead extra