[2:40:26 - 2:40:33] But like, I think he was explaining to me that, um, DeWitt and 
Whitton, we're both working
                       [2:40:41 - 2:40:45] Lewis 
Whitton was the representative of that conference from RIS, which is Martin Corporation's
                                             [2:41:48 - 2:41:52] Anti-gravity in the 50s was, you know, uh, uh, uh, Lewis 
Whitton even says this in the
                       [2:42:02 - 2:42:05] So the, the tie between quantum gravity and strength theories, Lewis 
Whitton's son is