[02:16 - 02:21] That's right. So 
George Knapp and I, with our journalism, we always try to, if we obtain
                       [03:55 - 03:59] And again, people have come forward and risked to bring this footage to me and 
George Knapp.
                       [05:08 - 05:12] And I've actually, 
George Knapp and I have already recorded with some of these whistleblowers.