[0:40:21 - 0:40:26] director of science and technology development, 
Nat Cobitz, told Ross Coltart he was during his
                       [0:40:44 - 0:40:51] that I could barely believe who he was. His name was 
Nat Cobitz. He was the US Navy's former
                       [1:32:36 - 1:32:42] such as Sumner Shapiro Bobby Ray Inman and 
Nat Cobitz who have all commented on the existence of