[0:00:14 - 0:00:26] I'm here with Dr. Jim Madden. You're a professor of philosophy who has dared to reconcile some ancient philosophy with UFOs.

[0:01:51 - 0:02:09] I'm here with Dr. Jim Madden and it's an absolute honor to have you. I've been kind of mulling over the ideas in your book for a while now.

[2:07:04 - 2:07:10] cool and is it on sub stack it's just Jim Madden or yeah yeah it's hard to change your

[2:07:10 - 2:07:15] sub stack name yeah like accidentally made it I think it's just literally Jim Madden's newsletter