[2:33:43 - 2:33:49] be naturally impacted or affected. How did Dr. Travis 
Taylor come on scene?
                       [2:33:49 - 2:33:57] Yeah, when it was funny, Travis 
Taylor was recommended by the History Channel,
                                             [2:47:56 - 2:48:04] ruin the dynamic that we had created. But we flew everyone out to Los Angeles to meet with Dr. 
Taylor                       [2:48:04 - 2:48:16] and production. And I was pleasantly surprised at how qualified Dr. 
Taylor, I mean, two PhDs
                       [2:48:56 - 2:49:02] The fact that Dr. 
Taylor had taken a position as the chief scientist for the UAP task force
                       [2:49:08 - 2:49:15] that capacity was a, it was a significant concern. We had to talk through that. And Dr. 
Taylor,
                       [2:51:49 - 2:51:54] Travis 
Taylor is not the principal investigator. The chief scientist is Skinwalker Ranch.
                       [2:52:14 - 2:52:20] investigation and leading it. Dr 
Taylor, while an important member of the team and someone that I
                       [2:52:20 - 2:52:28] respect, I actually love Dr 
Taylor. I think he's, he's been an incredible, uh, influence and asset to
                       [2:53:13 - 2:53:22] with, uh, with feeling marginalized and, and felt talked down to at times by Dr 
Taylor and, and
                       [2:53:45 - 2:53:53] that Dr 
Taylor didn't breach any of his, his oaths or NDAs and he hasn't been the one, uh,
                       [2:59:45 - 2:59:51] naturally occurring. And according to Dr. 
Taylor and others, to be matching the composition of,
                       [3:14:09 - 3:14:19] different types of cameras that have recorded this thing, this anomaly as Travis, as Dr. 
Taylor would
                       [3:35:10 - 3:35:16] for example, or the first year that we brought on, uh, Dr 
Taylor and we started a more aggressive