[0:56:45 - 0:56:49] first time and I took this guy, 
Ray Stanford, who wrote the book on it, a Sikuro solstera in a
                       [0:59:32 - 0:59:37] a re-aspect of it right. So, I have flew to the East Coast. I met with this guy 
Ray Stanford who wrote
                       [1:00:13 - 1:00:19] So, and I had the rocks, 
Ray Stanford showed me the rocks. What happened? The landing gear came down.
                       [1:01:10 - 1:01:15] But that was a different thing. So this was 
Ray Stanford story to me and he was like, I took