[0:10:22 - 0:10:39] Wow, that's amazing. So you were kind of chosen as a note. I mean, something that you've talked about as well as the great John Von 
Neumann, who is known for being an absolute genius in his time smarter than all of the other incredibly smart scientists in the US, tongue Hungarian.
                       [0:11:32 - 0:11:48] Now, as far as this goes, let's go back and let's explore Von 
Neumann a little bit. Very interesting. He came up with, he was involved in this. I think that we're past the point of saying, oh, these scientists who are not interested in this.
                       [0:11:58 - 0:12:07] That's not true. They were involved. A couple of data points to support you before you go on is Robert Sarbacher said John Von 
Neumann was directly involved.
                       [0:12:07 - 0:12:19] And Von 
Neumann died of a really kind of gnarly form of cancer. And he had secret secret service outside of the Naval Hospital that he that he was in because they were afraid of what he might say.
                       [0:15:16 - 0:15:26] He was actually an employee of skunkworks who got basically fired over his research around UFOs. And he was saying, you know, yes, there was a program and Von 
Neumann,
                                             [0:19:47 - 0:20:06] He didn't tell me personally, but he told a member of my family, not Von 
Neumann, General Exan, that he had held when the debris and bodies were brought into the material, he had held one of the bodies.
                       [0:20:27 - 0:20:41] My immediate thought was my God bugs huge bugs. And I thought that's why I thought it was having a nightmare because I came to this with no idea it could happen. Now let's get back to Von 
Neumann.
                       [0:20:41 - 0:21:01] There's two things is the Von 
Neumann machine, which is he postulated a machine that would replicate the species that built it and would then move around the galaxy looking for planets that it could seed.
                       [0:21:01 - 0:21:26] What if that's what we have here only Von 
Neumann in his I don't recall if it's in very much detail in the writings he did about this, but he does mention that something like that over vast amounts of time would inevitably have a certain amount of deterioration of its memory.
                       [0:21:56 - 0:22:10] It could be it looks a little bit like an AI that has gone berserk Von 
Neumann the Von 
Neumann machine could be an explanation for why this is so peculiar let me put it that way.
                       [0:22:10 - 0:22:25] But the other thing that Von 
Neumann and you referenced briefly this paper earlier there is supposedly a paper and at general Exan who was no scientist but had been exposed to a lot of scientists involved in this and was very smart.
                       [0:22:25 - 0:22:39] It tried to explain this to me and of all the scientists who were involved in it I thought he was most likely talking about something that Von 
Neumann would have thought of would have conceived.
                       [0:23:56 - 0:24:14] That is as basic as our assumption about the rest of the reality that we know fascinating how do we get our hands on that paper because we know on record that Von 
Neumann no scientist would dispute this he entertained this idea that the mind is responsible for wave function collapse.
                       [0:25:20 - 0:25:38] And therefore we are not ready and here's the problem I wrote a short story about this about Von 
Neumann's death called the open doors about his fear that this is a door which opens in the mind and in the perceptual system.
                       [0:27:34 - 0:27:46] Ordinary discourse in a deeper level of consciousness which is the level of consciousness which Von 
Neumann was talking about when he was talking about.