[0:02:59 - 0:03:05] And so they were so sort of in and word of me that they talked with Ron 
Hubbard and Ron
                       [0:03:05 - 0:03:11] Hubbard wanted to have me be the lawyer for them, you know, with him and his wife Susan,
                       [0:03:13 - 0:03:19] So I said that, look, I wouldn't even meet with Ron 
Hubbard unless there was a condition