[0:25:13 - 0:25:18] when I was doing the phenomenon that happened in 1964 in
secoro in New Mexico and it's it's
[0:25:37 - 0:25:42] secoro over a five-year period I got to know his wife his co-workers his kids I went to the
[0:26:33 - 0:26:37] at White Sands now White Sands right around the same time it's just a stone throw from
secoro [0:27:33 - 0:27:38] again suspend judgment let's keep digging a little bit yeah because I believe
secoro would