[0:17:42 - 0:17:52] People talk about it in the media, the general public talks about it. And then Congress gets involved because it's what people are interested in. And then you can kind of push these things.

[0:21:12 - 0:21:21] I talked to a congressional source told me I asked point blank, what's your confidence level in the existence of such programs?

[1:20:57 - 1:21:03] And I just interviewed Navy fighter pilot Ryan Graves who testified before Congress also under oath.

[2:15:06 - 2:15:10] and what do you think he meant when they brief Congress

[2:34:46 - 2:34:50] Admiral Gallaudet, who just testified before Congress,

[2:47:55 - 2:47:57] and presented it to people in Congress.

[3:23:03 - 3:23:09] and now we have people under we had chuck schumer alleging that in um in in congressional legislation