[1:04:17 - 1:04:23] Another witness
Joel contacted Stan after hearing local news covering Leslie Keane and the CFI's
[1:04:23 - 1:04:30] attempts to pry free Kexberg documentation. Gordon would meet with
Joel at his home in late 2002,
[1:04:30 - 1:04:34] seeing
Joel go back and forth on whether or not to proceed with the interview in fear of getting
[1:04:34 - 1:04:39] in trouble for what he saw.
Joel claimed on the day of the Kexberg crash he entered the woods to
[1:04:44 - 1:04:50] of colors like electricity.
Joel hidden the woods to observe army and air force personnel,
[1:04:50 - 1:04:55] men in civilian clothing and men in suits and hats enter the crash area.
Joel claimed to have
[1:05:05 - 1:05:11] Gordon noted at this time
Joel's expression changed to a far more somber and uncomfortable tone.
[1:05:11 - 1:05:16] Joel stated soon after striking the object a hatch opened that swung from right to left at the
[1:05:16 - 1:05:21] front of the object, accompanied by a whirling hissing sound.
Joel described a scene what looked